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Coming from a Nazarene University President

Posted by nazarenepsalm113 on November 18, 2008

Scary stuff folks –  they are mentoring the next generation of Christian believers.  And many are going down a different road.

Here is the first article-

I am printing this article with the permission of a friend and sister in the Lord of mine who had a conversation with a president of a Nazarene University.

 

You should be shocked at his comments. I have left the names out at the request of my friend.

Here is what my friend wrote

To Whom It May Concern:

 My husband and I attended Into the Woods drama presentation this past weekend.  As we were waiting, I read the electronic sign in the lobby.  On the sign was an announcement inviting students to partake in Yoga twice a week.

 Now, I am no theologian, but, I have done enough research on Yoga to know that it is a form of Hindu spirituality and that Hindu’s DO NOT practice yoga to get in shape.  Yoga, indeed has serious spiritual implications involved with it, none of which line up with the God of the Bible.

 If students want to stretch, I suggest they find a good, non-Yoga exercise book or tape and do that.  I also suggest that the students be taught what indeed Yoga truly is and what it represents.
 Discernment needs to be taught.  Ignorance is no excuse when messing with the spiritual realm….especially when it comes to a false religious system.
 A concerned parent

Here was the University presidents response-

“Thanks for your concern. I’ll ask our AD to look into the nature of the course. I am certain that no connection to Hinduism is implied or taught in the class. The word has become generic for stretching type exercises.

 In an interesting way, we are doing what the Old Testament saints did in moving into Canaan – taking their Canaanite forms and terms and using them in a God-honoring way. The Hebrew creation account is a re-telling of the Babylonian tale. Their Hebrew feast days are re-interpretations of the Canaanite days. The Royal Psalms in the collection of Psalms were once Canaanite songs.  It’s what E. Stanley Jones did with the Hindu Ashrams. He used their form to tell the story of Jesus. Maybe someone will come expecting Hinduism and find the people of God. In many of the ethnic ministries of the church, we find customs from other religions and use them as a means to begin conversation with people of that faith, in order to tell the Christian story.

 All that said, there may be a better name than yoga.”

End of email.

First of all, if your jaw is not already on the floor, let me make a couple comments and then we will see what God’s Word has to say about this mans comments.

And of course God’s Word is really all that matters here anyway.

This University is advertising that they are a Christian-centered university.

Now seeing the changes that the current new-age spirituality is bringing to Christianity in this great falling away that is happening now I would not necessarily argue with their advertisement.

Keep in mind though this is not a Christ-centered university.

 If you have men like this university president steering the helm of this ship, that ship is heading for the rocks.

Lets look at the university presidents statements.

“I am certain that no connection to Hinduism is implied or taught in the class. The word has become generic for stretching type exercises.”

My comments-very simple answer. Just because folks in America say they have seperated yoga from its Hindu roots doesn’t mean it’s so or that it can be done.

The very form of yoga is and always will be entrenched in its own Hindu spirituality.

You can call a pig a cat but that doesn’t mean it’s so.   Even if you paste fur to the pig, it is what it is.

Next statement-

“In an interesting way, we are doing what the Old Testament saints did in moving into Canaan – taking their Canaanite forms and terms and using them in a God-honoring way.”

My comments- How did this guy get his job? It certainly was not based on his knowledge of scripture or history.

Numero uno- The Israelites were not Canaanite’s – they were Israelites.  They had no Canaanite forms and terms themselves. Yes, I understand the Israelites did copy pagan practices even those in Canaan but, well you get my point.

When can we copy any pagan form and use it in a God honoring way?

Where does the scriptures allow that?

It does not.

Instead here is what God’s Word states:

Deut 18:9-12 

9 “When you come into the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. 13 You shall be blameless before the LORD your God. 14 For these nations which you will dispossess listened to soothsayers and diviners; but as for you, the LORD your God has not appointed such for you.”

Let’s get this straight. God’s Word says that you are not to follow or imitate pagan practices. The university president states its a-ok.

To which some may say well this was the Old Testament when we were under the law.

Ok, here is what the New Testament states:

2 Cor 6:14 

“14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?”

You will have to decide who’s word you will follow.

Man or Gods.

Let’s move on.

His comments-

“The Hebrew creation account is a re-telling of the Babylonian tale. Their Hebrew feast days are re-interpretations of the Canaanite days. The Royal Psalms in the collection of Psalms were once Canaanite songs.” End of quote.

My comments- The man is basically saying the Bible was influenced by pagans not the Holy Spirit.

Well, let’s just see what God’s Word has to say about this:

“All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness”. (2Tim 3:16)

“No prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” 2 Peter 1:20-21

“And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Rev 19:10

Jesus is the Logos – the very Word of God.

John 1:1 “The Eternal Word.”

 1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

To deny God’s Word is to deny Christ.

In Mt 5.18 Jesus said that even the “jots” and “tittles” of the Bible will fulfill God’s purpose. A “jot” is a single letter. A “tittle” is a tiny punctuation point.

Jesus said: “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” Mt 5:18

Last comments- 

This is the last quote from the university president. It’s a lie that is being told over and over again even in films such as “Gods Fingerprints in Japan” which asks the questions:  Is there evidence of the Creator God in Japanese history and culture?  Is there a connection between the Tea Ceremony and Communion?  Is it contradictory to be Japanese (and we are talking culture and practice here folks – not race) and a Follower of Jesus?

The basic lie was stated that  the Holy Spirit was present in all religion and pagan cultures. 

If that were true, why did Jesus have to come down and die on the cross for all?

What would be the point if other religions already had the one true God in them?

That’s a lie from the very pit of hell itself, my friends.

Here is the university presidents final comments:

 “It’s what E. Stanley Jones did with the Hindu Ashrams. He used their form to tell the story of Jesus. Maybe someone will come expecting Hinduism and find the people of God. In many of the ethnic ministries of the church, we find customs from other religions and use them as a means to begin conversation with people of that faith, in order to tell the Christian story.

 All that said, there may be a better name than yoga.”

End of comments.

My final comments– My friends and brothers in the Lord, Sandy Simpson and Mike Oppenheimer address these issues in their book “Idoaltry in Their Hearts” which you can pick up here at either Mike Oppenheimer or Sandy Simpson’s websites.

Here are their links:

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/idolatrybook.html

http://www.letusreason.org/products.htm

In conclusion, God’s Word states in Exodus 20:2-3:

2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 

 3 “You shall have no other gods before Me. 

You will have to decide who’s word you are going to trust and follow.

Peace and Blessings,

Tim Wirth

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