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The Reformation and Plain Sense

Posted by nazarenepsalm113 on April 23, 2009

Just a comment on the Reformation. I just got done reading an article by Naz Nets very own Dennis Bratcher it was titled “Problems with “Plain Sense” reading of scripture.
Now first of all I question what kind of sense Dennis used when writing the article.
Dennis states”A question I often hear in Sunday School classes or in discussions about the meaning of Scripture is: Why can’t we just take the Bible for what it says, at face value, “literally”? If what it says makes plain sense, can’t we assume we have the truth?

This sounds like a good principle, and in “principle” I would agree with it.” end quote

Lets put on the brakes right there because I don’t believe Dennis is being truth full here and conveniently uses the word in principle but then goes on to write a article on why he doesn’t agree with reading scripture with plain sense or literally.
In principle means we may agree on the fundamentals but do not agree on the details which in my mind is a type of a oxymoron because you cant believe in the fundamentals unless you agree with the very details those very fundamentals are based on.
I believe Dennis as a human being is quite brilliant but seriously lacks good biblical discernment.
Dennis goes on to state we are reading things based on how we were bought up , our culture, country etc..
We see things differently than they did back when scripture was written.
Dennis states here- “So if we lived in ancient Israel 3,000 years ago, the plain sense reading would be, well, plain. But to us today, it is not at all plain. In fact, what appears to us as the plain sense reading is actually nearly the opposite of what the text communicated in its own context.” end quote

That’s all just a typical Emergent church ploy. That’s why these folks ignore Gods warning in Deut 18:9-14 because they will state this was Gods warning to the Israelites only and doesn’t apply to us because God was talking about Baal or other false religions.
So this in turns opens the door to new age practices like contemplative/centering prayer etc..
So do we say that God no longer warns us of the occult?
Of course not- look what happened in Acts 19:19.
But of course a Emergent would argue back that it is wrong to burn any book because our culture of course speaks against that.
So if we have to look at everything through the lens of our culture we are indeed in sorry shape.
Dennis also states-
“First, this classical plain sense approach was a product of the Reformation, a major tenet of which was to recover the authority of the Scripture for the people.”
The Emergents have one very common excuse-Everything is a product of the Reformation therefore making the way we believe just some kind of brand new truth that’s only perhaps 500 years old.
What a utter lie.
What was Luther reforming?
Martin Luther was trying to reform the Roman Catholic church not Christianity in general which in turn started Protestantism.
I think its a real stretch to say that no one believed in a literal interpretation of scripture which was without error before the Reformers came along.
Gods Word was always as it was written even before it was all formed together in what we now know as the Bible.
I think its a giant leap to think no one thought this way before the Reformers came along.
But this is what the Emergent Church and those in higher learning would have you think.
Notice that one thing is very much absent in Dennis Bratchers commentaries.
The Holy Spirit and how we need to rely on Him to lead us into all truth.
John 16:5-15 teaches us about the work of the Holy Spirit.
If you take it from the angle I believe Dennis teaches from this would probably only apply to the apostles.
Where would that leave us then?
Orphans with no one to guide us?
Don’t believe that for a second folks
scripture states in John 14:16-18

16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

John 14:26
26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.

The Holy Spirit told the apostles what to write in scripture which we have now in our Bibles.
And we receive the Holy Spirit when we are saved who then leads us into the truth of Gods Word.
Something unsaved and lost people cannot comprehend-scripture.
People cannot no way no how using any form of study guide or hermeneutics understand scripture without having the Holy Spirit. You just cant figure it out that’s why scripture confounds the wise.
1 Cor 1:27-29
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.”
And you know what that’s why higher learning and the scholars often just don’t get it.
Whether they want to agree with that or not its a issue of pride.
They truly want to glory in their flesh.
But sorry you just cant figure out scripture that’s why it was a stumbling block back in Paul’s day.
And its a stumbeling block to the scholars now.
That’s why we have the confusion and chaos we have in the writings of Brian McLaren, Len Sweet and other Emergent leaders.
Because their writings are inspired by someone else.


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